Episode 108: A Journey from Transactional to Transformational Coaching with Josh Williams

Welcome back to the Mental Mettle Podcast! In this episode, Coach Matt Thomann sits down with Josh Williams, head coach of the Clinton Lady Maroons, to explore a powerful evolution in coaching—moving from a transactional mindset to a transformational one.
The Turning Point: Realizing There’s More Than Metrics
Coach Williams opens up about his early years, where coaching was all about results, structure, and short-term goals. Like many coaches, he focused on defense, effort, and rebounding—raising the floor for his teams but feeling limited in how high they could soar. Despite early success, a pattern emerged: his teams were consistent, but something was missing when it came to reaching their full potential.
The breakthrough came with humility and self-reflection. After years of “doing things the way they’ve always been done,” Williams began to question if he was truly serving his athletes—or just managing them. He dove into podcasts, books, and conversations with other coaches, looking for a better way.
Transactional vs. Transformational: What’s the Difference?
- Transactional Coaching:
This traditional style is all about exchange—“I give you this, you give me that.” It’s top-down, metrics-driven, and focused on immediate outcomes. Practices are structured, decisions come from the coach, and relationships are often limited to the court. - Transformational Coaching:
Williams describes his shift to transformational coaching as a move toward inspiration, motivation, and deep connection. It’s about fostering trust, togetherness, and servant leadership—not just between coach and player, but among teammates as well. The focus shifts from simply winning games to developing people and building a culture that lasts.
Building a Culture of Trust and Togetherness
Williams shares how he began implementing intentional strategies to build team culture. He prioritized open communication, feedback, and team bonding—even if it meant spending less time on drills and more time on relationships. The results? Greater cohesion, resilience, and a sense of belonging that translated to success on and off the court.
He emphasizes the “three T’s”:
- Talent
- Toughness
- Togetherness
While talent and toughness can be developed through traditional means, true togetherness only comes from a transformational approach.
Practical Strategies for Modern Coaches
Coach Williams offers a toolkit of actionable ideas:
- Mindfulness and Reflection: Regular team check-ins and mindfulness exercises help players manage stress and stay present.
- Teamwork Activities: Purposeful bonding activities build trust and accountability.
- Servant Leadership: Encouraging athletes to support one another and lead by example.
- Continuous Learning: Williams models humility and growth, showing that even seasoned coaches can—and should—keep evolving.
Personal Growth and Lasting Impact
Williams’ journey is a testament to the power of vulnerability and adaptability. By letting go of ego and embracing change, he’s not only seen greater success on the scoreboard, but also helped shape confident, resilient young women ready for life’s challenges.
Key Takeaways
- Success is about more than wins and losses; it’s about who your athletes become.
- Building a culture of trust and togetherness leads to stronger teams—and stronger people.
- Coaches who invest in transformational leadership create lasting impact, both on and off the court.
Whether you’re a coach, athlete, or leader in any field, this episode is packed with insights to help you move beyond transactions and toward transformation.
For more on athlete and team coaching or professional development, contact Coach Matt Thomann at coachthomann@gmail.com or visit www.mentalmettlelifecoaching.com.
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